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Okay, and then go ahead and set him flat down.

How long have you been going to school for this?

Longer than I care to think, 11 months.

I'll explain more to you.

Go ahead and stand up.

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Turn your feet that way.

And then turn your feet this way.

And then go ahead and have a seat.

And put your feet up here.

Okay, and then kind of turn him into a V shape a little bit.

And then cross him with ankles.

Okay, hold on. I'm trying to make this go as fast as I can.

Oh, you're fine, son.

Okay.

I was thinking to do...

Go ahead and cross him one time the other way.

You wear like a size 3 shoe, I bet.

Ah, I can do a 5.

Sometimes, depending on the shoe.

A 5? Okay.

Go ahead and kick off your socks.

Sorry about that. It's only a painstaking part.

And how often a day do you go barefoot or without socks?

Probably more than I should.

Once I get home, shoes come off, so socks.

Okay.

And do you have any problems with your feet now at all?

Not that I know of.

I mean, my toes pop a lot.

But other than that, they seem to be fine.

Go ahead and put him in a V shape.

And then just relax him if you can.

Okay.

And then put him together.

And can you squinch your toes?

Okay, you can do it.

And then go ahead and put him back.

And then spread your toes.

And is it hard to do that?

Does it hurt to do that?

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