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Now they don't. They're vulnerable, but they're not extremely vulnerable.

The extremely vulnerable are people undergoing active treatment for cancers,

people with certain cancers like blood cancers,

people who have got cystic fibrosis, severe lung disease,

and a new one this time round is adults with Down syndrome are now included in that group,

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and also people with severe kidney disease are also in that group.

Now Rosemary, I don't know what those people, some of those people in those groups,

clearly you all have had contact with over a long period of time.

In some ways, is there a certain amount of confusion over this?

Because on the one hand those people possibly have made their own decisions

about how much they will go out or whatever.

Before they were told don't go out at all. Now they're told that's not quite appropriate.

But then they see the numbers. They see the infection rate,

and they see the numbers of death as was announced yesterday.

Are people, do you think, making their own minds up as to what they're going to do?

Yes, and I think there is huge confusion.

And actually to a large extent, whether you're clinically vulnerable or extremely vulnerable,

the main thing is to take care.

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